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Anti-Shur'tugal - Debate and Discussion
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| [Consolidated] LOTR Questions plus One Ring / Drug Addiction |
[27 May 2012|02:46pm] |
Does anyone happen to have a link to a good paper dealing with parallels between the One Ring and drug addiction? There are some out there, but they seem ... flimsy. I'm talking specifically about the One Ring and addiction, not necessarily the whole quest to destroy the ring.
 "I would so much like to touch it...one last time..."
Next questions: I admit it's been forever since I read the books, so perhaps these questions have been answered (they certainly weren't in the films, I don't think...) but:
1) Why weren't the eagles utilized _at all_ in at least the early days of the journey? I know they would eventually be discovered, but even going in a general direction and having to bail out at some point would have saved an immense amount of time.
2) Why did Shelob's stinger penetrate Frodo's mithril vest where the spear used by the troll earlier on did not? The guy who comes out to greet Aragorn and company at the Black Gates (I call him the dental demon) throws it to them, indicating that Frodo did at least have it, and I can't believe he wouldn't have been wearing it ... so...was this ever addressed?
Danke!
 This dude. Extended version only?
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| Unveiling of Spork Site - Verprose.com |
[27 May 2012|02:35pm] |
Well, I've been working on this little project for some time now, my own entry into the somewhat already full pool of sites dedicated to or leaning towards sporkings. Before I get to the details, the site:
www.verprose.com
I had envisioned making a sort of one-stop-shop for sporkings, a place with all the (non-fanfic) sporking sites and items I could find all in one place. Mainly out of a personal desire to consolidate what I could find into a single space. Along with this I'm trying to push myself to get some of my own original sporkings done. I won't go into the details, but due to medical reasons, my focus and energy level is a shadow of what it once was, and trying to do these is a sort of therapy, in a way. So while it may take me some time to actually get a chapter done, it's still something.
I'm not a web designer, I'm using some barely modified basic Wordpress stuff, and the site may not be quite as navigable as it could be, but I think it does the trick for now. In addition, depending on whether people want to or not, I have no issues with hosting other people's original items there as well, kind of like what eragon-sporkings.wikipages does in its guest section. However, I'm focusing mainly on non-fanfic and non-twilight items. Perhaps if I get the desire to add at least links to Twilight stuff I will, but there's so much out there it felt oversaturated, so I figured I'd try to find lesser known items.
Just to make things clear, I'm not keeping local versions of anything without the authors' consent - this means that while there are myriad links to off-site locations (sort of like "portals" back in the early days of the internet), unless it says it's locally-mirrored or archived, it's simply a link to someone else's work, fully credited to them and whatnot. Anything which IS locally archived is, of course, credited to the original author and whatnot. Everything is digiproven as well, because hey, why not? Added bonus for you guys (www.digiprove.com for more info)
So...There you go. If you get the itch to help contribute to the site in some way, whether it be some new ideas, or original writings/sporkings, whatever, please let me know. With the conclusion of the Inheritance cycle, I'm sure the question of "now what about the a-s community?" has crossed some people's minds. While I am not hoping to replace this community or anything of the sort, I do hope that the sporking spirit continues with everyone on whatever they may find. Updates to the site will happen whenever, and I'll be adding some RSS feeds to the front for some of the more active sites (Conjugal, Impish, etc.) to help keep things somewhat active.
Contact me via email (mangraa[at]gmail) if you feel like helping out or have any constructive criticism. Trolls will be ignored; I have neither time nor patience for such douchebaggery.
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| Inheritance Spork Chapter Thirty-Four: AND THE WALLS FELL... |
[24 May 2012|04:11pm] |
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Here we are with chapter 34, also known as "And the Walls Fell..." ...Sure it sounds cool, but I would much prefer it if there had been actual walls falling in this chapter... and that ellipsis for DRAMAH... is bloody annoying!
Last time, the Varden was attacking Dras-Leona, and Eragon, Arya, Angela and Solembum (aka Kitty) were going to open the gate form the inside. Blödhgarm (aka Fabio) - disguised as Eragon - & Saphira were fighting Murtagh & Thorn.
Here we go, then. (Bolding is quotes. [...] is where I cut out unimportant parts of the quotes.)
( a pox on contrived drama! )
Are we not using tags anymore? /confuzzled
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| Follow up on feedback request |
[24 May 2012|06:36pm] |
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Thanks to everyone who offered opinions on my feedback request in this post. I'd asked you to help me pick the best short pitch for my novel. What I didn't say is that I'd be tweeting them in a couple days to try to get attention from literary agents.
The good news: It worked.
The bad news: The one that got an agent to request my stuff wasn't picked by any of you.
The verdict: You all suck at this.
Just kidding. I didn't like that one either. But apparently an agent did? (It was #5.)
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| Would love some feedback |
[23 May 2012|12:30am] |
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Hi book people/writer-type people,
I have a short period of time to come up with an answer to a pressing question, so I thought I would ask you. This has to do with book marketing.
The question is at my journal here: This post guys, this one
The post is basically asking you to pick one out of the seven provided phrases which would be most likely to make you buy (or at least express interest in) my novel. I value your opinions and would like to hear many, so please check it out. I would prefer comments to go there, but if you comment here I'll still pay attention.
Thanks in advance to anyone who offers an opinion.
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| I Might Meet Paolini! |
[22 May 2012|12:23am] |
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That's right, Chris is coming to my country, and not only that he is coming to my oft-ignored state in a place and on a date I can actually get to.
http://www.fullersbookshop.com.au/events/christopher-paolini-fullers-bookshop-hobart (On the off-chance that any other A-S members live here.)
I'm going to do everything in my power to get down there and actually meet him - I've oft been heard to say that despite my dislike for his work, he seems like the kind of person who I'd love to hang out with.
So while I'm off trying to organise a ticket from the wrong end of the state and how to actually get there and back and whether or not I'm going to need to ask my uncle to let me use his couch for the night etc. etc. etc.; any questions you guys would like me to ask if I get the chance? (Within reason, of course, I'd quite like for this to be a positive encounter.
I'm... I'm actually really excited about this :o
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| Inheritance spork |
[21 May 2012|04:53pm] |
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Hokay, it's been two weeks, and barrington42 has not posted chapter 33 of the spork as yet. Barrington42, you have a few hours leeway until I snake your dib and post my own version so the spork can resume. I know Likelolwhat is excited to post up chapter 34 so yeah - executive decision is GO! Posted via LiveJournal app for iPhone.
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[20 May 2012|12:45pm] |
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Just saw yesterday that Inheritance is attempting to overrun my new favorite thing in the world.
That's right.
There's now an Alagaesia mod for Skyrim.
Well, apparently it's still in the early stages, but I shudder to even think of my current obsession somehow overlapping with CP's... thing.
Or their fandoms overlapping. Ugh.
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| Bitch-ass "literary critics" |
[19 May 2012|03:26pm] |
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Fuck you haters. Paolini didn't write these books for you, or for anybody but himself. If you didn't like the book or the ending then too damn bad. Nothing that you say can or ever will change the story. Frankly I would like to see any of you write an international bestselling series. CP laughs at dumbasses like you all, who think that they know writing yet have never written anything of significance. No writer is perfect and a lot of the elements of the story are changed in the editing process anyway, so its not all CPs fault that the story "sucked so bad." But if criticizing a piece of childrens fiction with no chance of changing it makes you feel better about your worthless lives then by all means, go ahead
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| Creating languages / Using one's creation |
[10 May 2012|02:52pm] |
I think we all agree that PaoPao talks as if he's created things of much higher quality and interest than they actually are, so this isn't about his skillz at doing this or that. PaoPao writes epik fantasee fan-novel. He wants SPESHUL ANCHENT LANGUAGE for MAJEEK!
PaoPao decides, I CREATE!
*(reverting back from silly mode)*
So he says he made this language and it has roots in bla bla bla and *** he worked out how things are to be pronounced and whatnot ***. Then I read he admits that he can't properly speak his created language because he cannot properly roll his r's.
So my question to you all is this: Given this perfect real-world example, how much does it matter, if at all, that the creator of a language cannot properly speak it due to some inability on their part but they know what it _should_ sound like? Part of me says "well, it's not that HUGE a deal..." but another part of me says "if I'm creating something, I should be able to do every part 100%".
I think back to Lovecraft's constant reminder that his "language" of the old ones couldn't even be spoken by humans, so he wrote down the closest phonetic equivalents he could. However, Lovecraft didn't work out pronunciation guides..
Anyway, what do you think of this? Sloppy? Better to dump the R's if the creator can't even do them, or no big deal at all?
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| OK if I mirror old A-S articles? |
[09 May 2012|06:56am] |
I'm going to go ahead and start working on this since it'll take a little bit of time, but would there be any objection(s) to my mirroring/"archiving" whatever original A-S.com articles I can scrap together via web archives and whatnot, to be placed in a section on my (soon to be formally announced) spork-centric site?
What say you all?
*** Oh, and I'm trying to get a bit more original content on my site before I mention it here. I envisioned it as being a one-stop Sporking shop, so to speak. Area for original sporks debuted there, link listing of any and every spork site I have come across, as well as mirroring old or potentially soon-to-be-lost-due-to-inactivity items (all crediting original authors, of course). Perhaps expand into more general collaborative writing stuff later on if it comes up. There's already so many little writing sites out there, I'm just gonna let it evolve organically. ***
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| A-S DID get snaked... and guess where it points to now? |
[09 May 2012|02:34am] |
Sorry if this is old news, but ... meh.
Even though I'm a relative newcomer to the whole A-S community and sporking in general, I'm still filled with rage over this. Especially because I had marked down the domain's expiration date, checked multiple times to see what was up, and it was never available to register or purchase off whoever was holding it (likely because it had already been spoken for with many many dollars)....
anti-shurtugal.com now forwards to shurtugal.com.
So ... yeah.
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| What is with all the present tense narratives, lately? |
[08 May 2012|11:01am] |
The Hunger Games used present tense, and it was kind of annoying, but at least they were decent books. Being the masochist that I am (:P), I recently found myself a copy of the Fifty Shades books. Bad Twilight fanfiction pretending to be real books: sounds like perfect summer reading (well, unless I find it more boring and/or frustrating than amusing). But the first thing I noticed is these books also appear to be written entirely in present tense. How is this a good idea? In both of these trilogies, I honestly do not see how present tense serves any function, except to be annoying, make the prose awkward, and make the books harder to read.
I admit, I do use some present tense narrative in my own WIP, specifically during precognitive visions, and dream sequences. I wanted a way to delineate between reality, which is written in the expected past tense, and not-reality. As the dreams and visions in question aren't more than a few paragraphs long, I like to think the present tense narration isn't too annoying, and serves its purpose.
But I just don't see the appeal in writing entire books in present tense. Is this actually becoming a trend? Are there times you feel like present tense narration is good, or ways you think it can add to the feel of a story? How so?
So, can we have a discussion about the use of present tense narrative in writing?
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| Inheritance Spork: Chapter Thirty Two: Black-Shrike-Thorn-Cave |
[07 May 2012|07:59pm] |
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Sorry this is late! I have been wracking my brains as to how to best rip this chapter to shreds and figured as this is the third Saphira-perspective chapter in the Inheritance series (the first two being in Brisingr) it needed a little intro and explanation. Plus, I actually didn't read Brisingr myself so I was wanting to go through and pick apart all of the dragon-specific vocab which just fails on so many levels - continuity being the most apparent fail.
For a bit of light reading (read: reference material) I've gone through painstakingly and listed all the dragon-specific vocab in a separate text file which I've put on my writing/sporking wikispace site HERE. This I'll probably refer back to at times.
Otherwise, let's get into the chapter!
( Cutty cutty )
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