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Brisingr Spork, Part 14: Shadows of the Past (3/3) [26 Feb 2017|08:40pm]

hidden_urchin
“Shadows of the Past” is a twenty-eight page monster in which nothing happens.  Nothing.  There’s no interesting structure, no interesting characterization (or none that lasts), no interesting moral dilemmas, no conflict.  The entire chapter could be cut without a lasting impact on the story.  It’s inclusion makes me wonder if Paolini was being paid by the word.

In any case, I’m breaking it into three sporks just to spare myself some of the tedium.  I’ll post them at shorter intervals, though, because I don’t expect there’s too much to discuss.

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In Which Something Unimportant Happens (~1, 400 words)

Eragon starts wondering about Galbatorix’s True Name.  He thinks that if everyone gets together, perhaps they could discover it.  Arya mentions that three people—a Rider and two spellcasters—had already discovered it in the past.  Of course they can’t use it because Galbatorix cast a spell that would kill anyone who tried, and they don’t know how that spell works so they can’t protect themselves from it.

Well, that’s handily contrived.
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Brisingr Spork, Part 14: Shadows of the Past (2/3) [25 Feb 2017|09:50pm]

hidden_urchin
“Shadows of the Past” is a twenty-eight page monster in which nothing happens.  Nothing.  There’s no interesting structure, no interesting characterization (or none that lasts), no interesting moral dilemmas, no conflict.  The entire chapter could be cut without a lasting impact on the story.  It’s inclusion makes me wonder if Paolini was being paid by the word.

In any case, I’m breaking it into three sporks just to spare myself some of the tedium.  I’ll post them at shorter intervals, though, because I don’t expect there’s too much to discuss.

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In which Nothing Continues to Happen (~1, 800 words)

For reasons unknown to this reader, Arya decides to share an intimate part of her life with Eragon, namely her relationship with Faolin.  They were close.

A pang of jealousy afflicted Eragon.  He wrestled with it, subdued it, and tried to eliminate it but was not altogether successful.

I’ll give Paolini credit.  That’s a human response.  It wasn’t written compellingly, but it was human.

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Q&As - Special Video Edition [26 Feb 2017|11:47am]

torylltales
A little while ago Paolini posted a series of video interviews on Paolini.net. Due to personal reasons I was only now able to get to them.

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Well, that wraps up another Q&A session, this time presented through the eternally irritating medium of Paolini's voice.
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Paolini Facebook AMA [25 Feb 2017|12:13am]

the_bishop8
Link to AMA: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1565802433465004&id=424047514307174
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Brisingr Spork, Part 14: Shadows of the Past (1/3) [24 Feb 2017|10:25pm]

hidden_urchin
“Shadows of the Past” is a twenty-eight page monster in which nothing happens.  Nothing.  There’s no interesting structure, no interesting characterization (or none that lasts), no interesting moral dilemmas, no conflict.  The entire chapter could be cut without a lasting impact on the story.  It’s inclusion makes me wonder if Paolini was being paid by the word.

In any case, I’m breaking it into three sporks just to spare myself some of the tedium.  I’ll post them at shorter intervals, though, because I don’t expect there’s too much to discuss.

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Fireside Ramblings (~1, 900 words)

Eragon and Arya are in a hurry.  Thorn and Murtagh could drop out of the sky on top of them at any moment.  After all, that’s why Eragon murdered a fleeing soldier and they both mutilated the bodies of the dead.

Therefore, now is the perfect time to set up camp, start a fire, and have a leisurely chat.

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Question about the spork [24 Feb 2017|01:50pm]

zelaznamaska
As hidden_urchin will sadly be unable to post the next part of the spork for a couple of weeks, an anonymous suggested under the previous post to continue the sporking out of order, with the next chapter, "Amid the Restless Crowd". As a newcomer to this community, I don't want to act as though I owned this place, so please tell me if you prefer to wait for hidden_urchin's spork first and look at all Brisingr's chapters in order, or fill the waiting time with the next chapters (I could post "Amid the Restless Crowd during the weekend) and return to "Shadows of the Past" when hidden_urchin feels better and finds time to spork it.
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Looking for old Anti-Shurtugal forum admins. [22 Feb 2017|11:27pm]

ext_4028160
Hi,

I'm hoping to get in touch with any of the original admins from the original forums. I really wish I could remember people's names, but it's been a while. On the forum, I went by the name LennyLen, and I was one of the admins of the Dog Eared forums that superseded the original ones.

If any of you are here, or if you know how to get in touch with one of them, I'd love to hear from you.
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Brisingr Spork, Part 13: Mercy, Dragon Rider (3/3) [21 Feb 2017|01:08pm]

hidden_urchin
I am very sorry that I missed my self-imposed post date.  I ended up working a ton of overtime, and then I got sick.  ETA: Sorry, I forgot the cut.

Here is Part Three of "Mercy, Dragon Rider."

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Aftermath (~ 2, 400 words)

Eragon’s response to his murder of the soldier is what one expects from a young author reaching for meaning but with no understanding to draw on.

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Some thoughts on Brisingr [17 Feb 2017|01:54pm]

star_dragon5
[ mood | bouncy ]

I have conquered the Black Brick! It was slow going, but I managed.

Murtagh, Thorn, and Elva are the only characters I care about. They and Sloan were responsible for the only emotions I felt all book.

Eragon's treatment of Sloan was appalling.

Still convinced Galbatorix is the real hero. He's right about the Varden being responsible for the war, as far as I know.

Still fangirling Murtagh.

Is it wrong of me to pretend that Murtagh and Thorn are friends, not just master and servant like all the other Riders and their dragons?

Also pretending that Morzan felt some sort of twisted affection for Selena, at least in the beginning.

Signing off now.

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Terrible Writing Advice: Evil Empires [17 Feb 2017|05:22pm]

hergrim


If Paolini wrote a how to guide for making an Evil Empire, it would be this, only without the sarcasm or self-assurance.
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Saphira's Armour [08 Feb 2017|12:54pm]

theepistler
[ mood | cranky ]

Here's something that recently occurred to me - what the hell happened to Saphira's armour? It's made a big deal of in Eragon (where it proves to be more of a hindrance than a help), it's mentioned maybe once in Eldest, and then it disappears never to be seen or heard from again in Brisingr. And as far as I know it never shows up in Inheritance either. Eragon's armour, Roran's armour, Murtagh's armour - their kit gets plenty of attention (frequently too much of it, quite frankly), but Saphira's gets none, and Thorn apparently never wears armour either, not even in battle. (Let's not even get into the issue of why a  dragon with scales "hard as gemstones" would need armour in the first place).

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Brisingr Spork, Part 13: Mercy, Dragon Rider (2/3) [07 Feb 2017|12:51pm]

hidden_urchin
“Mercy, Dragon Rider” is a unique chapter in Brisingr.  There’s no reason for it to exist; yet it’s the point where the book crosses a Moral Event Horizon.  In order to give the chapter the attention it so richly deserves, I will spork it in three parts: the set-up, the fight, and the aftermath.

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Searching to Kill (~2, 150 words)

The slaughter begins with a decision.

Eragon knew then what he had to do.

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Speaking of Eragon Artwork. . . Paolini artwork! And a "bonus"! [07 Feb 2017|08:48am]

predak123

I follow Paolini on facebook, and the other day he posted a link to his artwork on Paolini.net. It's kind of fun to look at. Some of it is very good:

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Some of the sketches are on the back of old Eragon drafts. Most are too difficult to read through the sketchwork, and some of them don't look like they've changed much, but I did find an old version of the prologue of the blue book, possibly even the first draft. And it's awesome:

Requiem
Part I, Inheritance
Preface

Wind howled through the black, watchful trees, carrying a scent that would change the world. It howled through a night that chilled the heart, a night so black it could have come from the eternal darkness that precedes and follows all things. The stars overhead were cold points of light that failed to penetrate [?...]. The pale head of a tall man dress in dark clothes lifted and his aquiline [?...] moonless night it was hard to tell if he was a ghostly apparition [?...] real and potent.

I kind of wish that this had stayed the same. It's a lot funnier this way.
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Does Anyone have any opinions on Eragon Art Work? [05 Feb 2017|08:14pm]

w3rew0lfgirl_99
[ mood | blah ]



Does Anyone have any opinions on Eragon Art Work?  I know this is more of a writing community and not exactly a fan club but I was just kind of curious.




For me I really like the following from other artists:

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Eragon-and-Saphira-278199038

and

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Saphira-and-Thorn-642288787

The first one is how I would imagine Saphira but the 2nd I just find so immersive like a dark dream world.

I also love Arya’s expression in this: http://elizalento.deviantart.com/art/Inheritance-Comic-Dating-Advice-495740438

Anyway I am going to be having some character sheet art done of my drawings so I can start learning animation.  I think I can draw well enough to show a more capable artist what I want.  My art is here http://lost-shadow-creature.deviantart.com/.   I tried to make the dragons look both like the description in the book and the book artwork cover.  I wanted the dragons to be able to walk lizard/dinosaur like and cat like.  Proportions are such a headache. Scales are a headache. I also had to work on putting the eyes more on the sides instead of the front.

Here is my head models and my body side (work in progress):

http://lost-shadow-creature.deviantart.com/art/Dragon-Clay-Head-1-661701578

http://lost-shadow-creature.deviantart.com/art/Dragon-Clay-Head-2-661701784

http://lost-shadow-creature.deviantart.com/art/Saphira-2-660794900

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Brisingr Spork, Part 13: Mercy, Dragon Rider (1/3) [01 Feb 2017|12:07am]

hidden_urchin
“Mercy, Dragon Rider” is a unique chapter in Brisingr.  There’s no reason for it to exist; yet it’s the point where the book crosses a Moral Event Horizon.  In order to give the chapter the attention it so richly deserves, I will spork it in three parts: the set-up, the fight, and the aftermath.

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An Avoidable Tragedy (~2, 400 words)

A day out of Eastcroft, Eragon and Arya sense an Imperial patrol somewhere up the road.
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Brisingr Spork: Bloodwolf [28 Jan 2017|05:22pm]

predak123
Chapter 11: Bloodwolf

This chapter is 14 pages long, and, much like the chapters before and after it, is fairly pointless. Nasuada starts her day and then hears that the elves are approaching. They go out to meet them and find that their leader is a furry (because why not), and the chapter ends.

By my calculations, from counting lines, counting average words in a line, and number of pages, that’s over 5,300 words dedicated to something I summed up in 33 words. So at least Paolini is being true to form.

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Carvahall Villagers in the Varden [28 Jan 2017|04:26pm]

kris_norge
So I've been giving a fair amount of thought to what happens when the Carvahall villagers arrive at the Varden. It seems to me that they benefit from special treatment in every possible way and in no way is this more evident than with Roran. So as a medieval warfare enthusiast and a historical re-enactor, I'm writing a brief essay on what I believe should have happened to the villagers of Carvahall when they reach the Varden.
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Ahno the Trickster - Deleted Scene #2 Spork [26 Jan 2017|01:14am]

torylltales

This 'scene' was cut from Chapter 27, "Over Hill and Mountain".

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Eragon the Healer – Deleted Chapter Spork [24 Jan 2017|10:42pm]

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A comparison of dragon riders [23 Jan 2017|06:58pm]

doomotter
You'll have to forgive me since it has been a while since I have done an essay like this, but with my sporking coming up I really wanted some practice, so I thought I would do something that has really been on my mind lately. I hope you all enjoy.

Dragon riders are a trope of themselves these days. Ever since Anne Mcaffrey started this whole rotten business It seem like the concept is everywhere. Okay maybe it's not as pervasive as I make it out to be, but it is common enough that I actually grew tired of the concept. The Inheritance series is what really killed it for me. Everything about the poorly made concept behind the riders made me wonder Why would a dragon even want to be bonded to a human? This question led me to explore other problems with the concept of riders. It got to the point that if dragon riders were a thing in a series I would immediately turn away. Which is what happened when I first came across the Temeraire series.

To be perfectly fair Paolini actually almost killed me on fantasy altogether. It took the mastery of Brandon Sanderson to rekindle my interest in the genre, and give me the confidence to move on to other fantasy series. That brings us back to Temeraire.

I'll admit what immediately lured me back to considering the series was the fact that it is only part fantasy. It is also historical fiction which I love the fuck out of. A series set during the Napoleonic wars, but just so happens to have dragons? Yes please! Anyways I've rambled enough.

Also probably some minor, or even major spoilers for the first book in the Temeraire series.

I realized not even halfway through the first book how much better the whole dragon rider concept is handled. This first part will be about the actual characterization of the two main characters from each series

One of the biggest difference between the two is that Temeraire and his rider Laurence seem to actually like each other. There are some stupid scenes where Pao Pao tries to make it seem like Eragon and Saphira care for one another, but throughout the series their treatment of each other comes across more like an emotionally abusive relationship than a deep bond. They constantly argue, and Eragon usually gets away with telling her what to do.

Laurence and Temeraire actually have a deep bond, and the first book is basically all about them becoming close. Laurence actually loves Temeraire even though in the beginning he believes that the dragon has ruined his life. By bonding with Laurence Temeraire has caused his father to basically disown him, the woman he wants to marry leaves him, and it tears Laurence away from a life in the navy which he loved. Despite all of this Laurence almost never begrudges Temeraire. While he hates the position he is in he never blames the dragon. In fact he even begins to sleep curled up with the dragon on the deck of his former ship not long after Temeraire hatches.

Laurence begins reading to Temeraire, teaching him about science, art, and politics. He bathes Temeraire every day, and takes excellent care of him. In a way the dragon is something like a son to Laurence. We get a feel that the two really care for each other. At one point Temeraire gets jealous because Laurence begins to clean off another dragons scales and acts out.

We also get a good sense that Temeraire is growing and developing. Saphira just transitions from infant to adult with little to no in between. Temeraire starts out very childlike and eventually grows and develops into a quite intelligent individual. He even grasps some concepts better than Laurence such as mathematics.

The relationship between Saphira and Eragon just feels so forced. There are no memorable moments between the two, no sweet bonding moments, no times of learning, no embarrassing incidents. Their relationship is never built up. It just exists.

Temeraire and Laurence grow together. There are some very touching moments between the two such as after Temeraire's first battle. The dragon had been looking forward to it more than anything else, but afterwords he is bothered because one of the other dragons in his formation is badly injured, and he worries that if he has to go into battle again other friends of his will be hurt. Laurence has to explain that in battles his friends will be hurt and killed, but that he has to still do his duty.

Granted it has been years since I have read the inheritance series, and I have only recently read His Majesty's Dragon, but the relationship between Temeraire and Laurence is the focus of the book. In Eragon, Eldest, and the rest of the series it is an afterthought.

Well I hope you enjoyed this little comparison. Like I said in the beginning It's a while since I have written a piece like this. If you all like it I would be more than happy to continue. The next subject would be the tactical use of dragons in the two series.
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